If they are buzzing the motor they should not be blown. Sometimes when playing around with a lot of settings changes I noticed that they "lose their head" somehow. A power-off / power-on of the board should fix that. I am still trying to figure out a nicer way to reset them. I think disabling the steppers via gcode command also resets them, but I'm still experimenting with that.
I promised I'll write a setup guide, but it's still work in progress. My day job has been rather demanding the last few weeks so I had to shift focus there a little. I will try to finish the guide soon.
@PioniSensei and @niocio01 if you are really stuck and need help, let's arrange a Hangouts group call and I can explain the basic setup steps live.
Is anyone here coming to FOSDEM in Brussels this weekend? I will be there. We can meet and discuss this topic and other stuff if anyone wants to.
Hi Alex, thanks for getting back when you had time. Take your time, it's still a hobby and hell yes power off was the solution, but only when I had only one stepper driver installed. with both X and Y installed the problems started again. So I'm thinking my soldering sucks I'm gonna tidy it up right now with connectors.
Thanks for offering the hangout, even when we get the printer to work it would be nice to get in touch! I'm in the Netherlands so Brussels is "close" but I won't be there, gotta pack for moving house.
I've added my current solderjob to the drive folder. If you can spot any major faults please let me know. Have a nice weekend and we'll keep you posted!
Oh and btw: the single motor (x axis) ran juuust fine!
Hey, I tried now the half day to get my new radds board with my new TMC2130s to move the motor on my Anet A8, but they are not moving at all. I connected the spi lines like in the picture on page 3. I tried many different things in the config but nothing helped. The Hot-End and Fan is working but no motor. I tried PioniSenseis Config but even with that nothing moves. For testing I have just plugged in 12V, Hot End, NTC, XYZ Drivers + Motors. No Endstops.
The EN-Line is on GND. Maybe one can give me a hint what I can try to do?
After debugging with @peep we found out that the ZIP file that you get from the firmware configuration tool for version 1.0.1 doesn't include the Trinamic code. So please switch to development when using the configuration tool.
@Repetier can you check in the configuration tool if it picks the correct tag for 1.0.1? It looks like it might be giving and older version.
Makes sense. In your configuration you have no endstops for either X or Y. Do you want to use the sensorless homing feature or actual switches? You still need to define the endstops in configuration no matter what. Which homing type do you plan to use?
So for sensorless homing you need to run wires from the DIAG1 pins on the driver sticks to your endstop signal pins on your board. Here's some pictures of my setup where I run them to the MAX endstop signals.
Okay, homing works, but the problem still exists. At first i can move the Axis. When i start a print axis arent moving (except Z and E, still TMC2100). When i stop the print i cant move X and Y anymore. After something like the 3rd reset i can move the axis again... While not beeing able to move the axis, i can easily move them by hand, so it seems like motors arent getting any current (no holding torque).
Be aware that even if you turn the main power supply off, when connected to USB some boards still receive power from USB and your reset may be unreliable. Make sure to unplug USB when doing the power cycle.
Okay i think i found the problem, i think something on my board is wrong. As soon as my extruder fan starts the x and y are disabled. When temp is below 50°C and the fan turns of i can reset and move the axis again. Ill try to pin the fan on another mosfet and check angain.
Try to also verify if your power supply is suffient. Put a voltmeter on the board power connection and see if it drops when the fan starts (or heaters are on).
Okay i tested pretty much all mosfets and it seems as soon as the extruder cooling fan triggers the x and y steppers are disabled... Power supply is sufficient. Could this be a firmware problem, since if i trigger for example the partcooling fan on a fet i had the extruder fan on before i can still move the axis? Since i cant really find a correlation there the board seems to be ok.
Short notice, replaced the 2130 with the old 2100 and uncommented the 2130 section. Like this everything is working as intended. So i guess somehow the SPI communication is blocked when the extruder cooling fan triggers?!
I will try to reproduce your problem on my board. Which mosfet output do you use for that fan? Also, do you use PWM for the fan? What value is it set at?
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I promised I'll write a setup guide, but it's still work in progress. My day job has been rather demanding the last few weeks so I had to shift focus there a little. I will try to finish the guide soon.
@PioniSensei and @niocio01 if you are really stuck and need help, let's arrange a Hangouts group call and I can explain the basic setup steps live.
Is anyone here coming to FOSDEM in Brussels this weekend? I will be there. We can meet and discuss this topic and other stuff if anyone wants to.
Take your time, it's still a hobby
and hell yes power off was the solution, but only when I had only one stepper driver installed.
with both X and Y installed the problems started again.
So I'm thinking my soldering sucks I'm gonna tidy it up right now with connectors.
Thanks for offering the hangout, even when we get the printer to work it would be nice to get in touch! I'm in the Netherlands so Brussels is "close" but I won't be there, gotta pack for moving house.
I've added my current solderjob to the drive folder. If you can spot any major faults please let me know.
Have a nice weekend and we'll keep you posted!
Oh and btw: the single motor (x axis) ran juuust fine!
I tried now the half day to get my new radds board with my new TMC2130s to move the motor on my Anet A8, but they are not moving at all.
I connected the spi lines like in the picture on page 3. I tried many different things in the config but nothing helped. The Hot-End and Fan is working but no motor.
I tried PioniSenseis Config but even with that nothing moves. For testing I have just plugged in 12V, Hot End, NTC, XYZ Drivers + Motors. No Endstops.
The EN-Line is on GND.
Maybe one can give me a hint what I can try to do?
Best regards
Timo
How did you wire the SPI lines? Soldered? Jumper wires?
After debugging with @peep we found out that the ZIP file that you get from the firmware configuration tool for version 1.0.1 doesn't include the Trinamic code. So please switch to development when using the configuration tool.
@Repetier can you check in the configuration tool if it picks the correct tag for 1.0.1? It looks like it might be giving and older version.
Have the same trouble, I will try to switch to development.
Sven
Not using Stealthchop or anything...
Is this correct?
Do you want to use the sensorless homing feature or actual switches? You still need to define the endstops in configuration no matter what.
Which homing type do you plan to use?
I wanted to test the sensorless homing.
Then you need these settings:
...
Obviously, if you connect to the min endstop signals, you configure the min endstops above instead.
At first i can move the Axis.
When i start a print axis arent moving (except Z and E, still TMC2100).
When i stop the print i cant move X and Y anymore.
After something like the 3rd reset i can move the axis again...
While not beeing able to move the axis, i can easily move them by hand, so it seems like motors arent getting any current (no holding torque).
#define MOTOR_CURRENT
line look like in configuration?
Do you have stealthchop enabled?
Be aware that even if you turn the main power supply off, when connected to USB some boards still receive power from USB and your reset may be unreliable. Make sure to unplug USB when doing the power cycle.
As soon as my extruder fan starts the x and y are disabled.
When temp is below 50°C and the fan turns of i can reset and move the axis again.
Ill try to pin the fan on another mosfet and check angain.
Power supply is sufficient.
Could this be a firmware problem, since if i trigger for example the partcooling fan on a fet i had the extruder fan on before i can still move the axis? Since i cant really find a correlation there the board seems to be ok.
Like this everything is working as intended.
So i guess somehow the SPI communication is blocked when the extruder cooling fan triggers?!
https://imgur.com/a/iheXb
Also, do you use PWM for the fan? What value is it set at?