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repetier-server with "filament manager" function

DR3DDR3D
edited July 2020 in Feature Requests
Hey guys,
does repetier-server have any possibility to calculate / count down the filament amount or weight per spool, like octoprint does? maybe there is an plugin etc.?????

I like repetier so much better than octoprint, but this matter is important for me, so i also use octoprint for most of prints...
Thanks.

Comments

  • RepetierRepetier
    This is a future feature. Currently we only calculte how mach filament would get used and store how much was used on the prints but not connected to spools.
  • ZogarZogar
    Thats will be very usefull.
  • JimBruceJimBruce
    Hello

    Is there an update on this feature?

    Really be useful. I temporarily went to OctoPrint, but now I'm back
  • RepetierRepetier
    Next big thing we are working on is slicer integration and that plays together with filament management. But it's a lot of work so be patient. Might not be included in smaller updates we might make in between.
  • RaphDaManRaphDaMan
    Awesome idea and I would like to have in the filament management as well the temperature settings for extruder and bed.
    Could you as well think about a kinda scripting lang or markup used in the G-Code which is linking to the used filament for printing and automatically sets the extruder and bed temperature? That would make a real benefit when using different filaments and I don't have to look and service my notes in another textfile...

    By the way: I really like your Repetier Software and use it every day. You do a very good job! Excellent.
  • RepetierRepetier
    Interesting idea, also a bit difficult since we pre parse the gcode for timing calculations. That can not be done if parts would change. So need to think about a solution for this. Maybe a default value for timing and variable for real print. Will make a small difference in real print time but at least it works. But then slicer needs to understand that syntax as well, but ok we have a own version for just such cases. But don't think it will be in first release. Something for improved version later.
  • RaphDaManRaphDaMan
    edited March 2021
    That sounds great and for sure it's not a blocker for me having is with a next release or version. Maybe you can already take some idea into account and "prepare" it for the release or version after your slicer inclusion.
    THX
  • RepetierRepetier
    What we want from start is material detection, so we know with which material it was sliced. That might be another solution - to have an automatic change of temperatures when you have different materials loaded than used for slicing. I like to have a warning with some options in that case.
  • RaphDaManRaphDaMan
    I personally think the material choice is something you should decide and take before slicing. You could as well to the temperature have different settings for infill, speed, movements for ABS, PLA, TPU etc... and this creates a different slicing solution dependent of you material or filament settings.

    Currently I have the feeling that nobody really took care about the complete way-of-working or process from design to final output... which is not a critic to you and your software and more general speaking... but this is another discussion ;-)
  • RepetierRepetier
    You are right that different materials have different speeds etc. That is also why I want the info/warning box. But for same material type like PLA is is often all the same except temperature so that would be a quick fix on mismatch. Better is always to reslice with correct material selected. But that is not what a filament manager will do. The filament manager manages your filament spools - stores how much was printed with which spool, what material is on it and ideally a link to the preferred slicer filament setting.
  • RaphDaManRaphDaMan
    edited March 2021
    Okay, then I understand your idea behind the filament manager and what it's supposed to be. You mentioned it already to have a link from the filament manager to the "slicing manager" (or something fancy like). So the filament manager could contain a link to presets of these settings for input to the slicing manager. For each filament spool which has then color, weight, diameter, tolerances, density, price, age, manufacturer, shop, reorder, UPC/EAN/MPN etc. also a section/tab for slicing input. I could imagine that when you have several spools you could also use some custom barcode printed (I have a nice little label printer) and scan with a nice barcode scanner (I have an old Hand Held Product on) to register/select the spool get correct setting for the scling, printing etc... even if the remaining amount on the spool would suite your print... :smiley:

    ....when did you say are you officialising your next release...?! :smiley: can't wait already.
  • RepetierRepetier
    Can't say when it comes to this, just that it is next big thing. Mainly depends on support questions and bugs found. But good news is that I soon get an extra developer to help:-)
  • RaphDaManRaphDaMan
    Many thanks for the fruitful discussion and idea exchange. In case you need some testing, maybe I can give some support.
    Cheers and stay safe
  • DoKaDoKa
    Hello,
    is there an update regarding a way to manage filament? I am currently using Octoprint because I really appreciate the plugin for filament management, as the used material is automatically deducted from the roll live, even if the print job has been canceled once, and I always know exactly whether the material is sufficient for the print job.

    Since I store my filament rolls in airtight boxes, I can't weigh them every time to check if the filament is enough. The "SpoolManager" plugin is perfect for me.

    Now I get a second printer and I find the handling of 2 printers via Octoprint uncomfortable, I would like to switch to Repetier and even buy the Pro version here, but the lack of an option for automatic spool management prevents me from taking this step walk.

    Thanks in advance and I look forward to a reply
  • RepetierRepetier
    No update yet. Somewhere end of year I guess a first version should be available depending on how much extra work we have to do in between.
  • DoKaDoKa
    okay, thank you!

    I will wait for updates =)
  • DoKaDoKa
    Repetier said:
    No update yet. Somewhere end of year I guess a first version should be available depending on how much extra work we have to do in between.

    Hey, there are some News? o:)
  • RepetierRepetier
    No. First one more bug release then I think I can continue with slicer/filament management. But no date.
  • PrintLabsPrintLabs
    Hey! Is there any news on this feature? I do slice my gcodes outside the RS, but I'd love to manage my Filament storage in Repetier! 

    As I do use Prusament I'd really love to connect the data sheet that comes with a spool to the prints by connecting a spool and a printer. 

    Also I'd be happy to be able to tell RS what Filament is loaded and get a warning if I mismatch gcode and the loaded filament... :-) 

    Thank you for your work! 
  • RepetierRepetier
    I had already started with it when I got the need to fix/change some other issues. So it is next big thing planned. But next release will just have mostly fixes and then hopefully I can include it.
  • RaphDaManRaphDaMan
    Your plan to include the filament management in your next big release sounds awesome and I would be glad to test and provide some of my functional thoughts.
  • CryosCryos
    edited February 22
    So I'm new here and I just wanted to check in to see if this is still planned? I can't find anywhere to see when versions were released, just an in general change log for each version.

    I'm working on migrating from octoprint as I've had one printer at our store and one at home. Now I have two at home and even with the filament manager plugin it's awkward to track everything. Before purchasing my extra printer at home I just tracked by what filament I kept at what location and moved the info over when I needed it for a project. Now with two in one place that wasn't nearly as logical. Octoprint doesn't like using multiple printers at once so if have to have different instances with different tracking. :s

    The software is amazing so far and while I'm currently on the trial I fully plan to purchase pro at this point. It's so worth it. This is the only feature I'm missing and I imagine the multiple printer instances can make it extra tricky. For now I'm just making a note of what spool is used for manual tracking in a spreadsheet.
  • RepetierRepetier
    Yes it is still planned, but no time for release. We often need to adjust to new developments on market. But it will come.
  • CappuccinoCakeCappuccinoCake
    Are there any updates on a FilamentManager implemented into RepetierServer? Are there any ETA's for the developement process? Are there maybe some future updates, where simple plugins are creatable by the community?

    Thanks for the information. This would be a nice feature, as it is hard to keep track of the inventory, especially when you have more than 3 different rolls of filament.
  • RepetierRepetier
    FilamentManager is still in the pipeline. But there is no ETA that too much depends on changes required to keep server working with newer printer solution and a lot more factors.

    Custom moduels are already possible for quite a while, see modules definition
    https://prgdoc.repetier-server.com/v1/docs/index.html#/en/modules/index

    Example is the firmware uploader which is implemented as a module just like image rendering.
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